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Friday, March 4, 2011

Brisbane Mayor a great Disappointment! More Folly for Our Children to Spend Decades Paying Off

Brisbane's Lord Mayor Campbell Newman was an engineer but seems to have lost his calculator.He should be able to do the basic maths on green power showing what an economic disaster it really is. His plans with nearby councils to build a 100 gigawatt "green" power station to be on line by 2014 are simply breathtakingly stupid and a colossal waste of ratepayers money. This new project follows his other pet tunnel projects that have been financial wrecks.
The Gold Coast, Ipswich and Scenic Rim councils have volunteered to be part of Brisbane's bold bid for a new green power station.

It was revealed yesterday Brisbane City Council planned to build a renewable energy plant in southeast Queensland by 2014.
The plant, which would be connected to the electricity grid, would also offer the flexibility for excess electricity generated to be sold to other users through the grid.
The council yesterday announced that it had begun to make a shortlist from 20 firms that had lodged expressions of interest to build a 100-gigawatt plant by 2014.
Environment chairman Peter Matic said the short-listed firms would be asked to submit tenders.
"We will make the announcement in June 2011 and we will ask them to be operating in 2014-15," he said last night.
The council will offer a 20-year contract to provide all its electricity from green energy.
Cr Matic would provide no details of the firms, but said the range of opportunity put forward included biomass, solar, hydro-electric and wind generators.
Electricity generated from these green sources would power street lights, council buildings and offices, libraries, and community centres in participating local government areas.
"Gold Coast City Council have shown an interest, Scenic Rim and Ipswich have also indicated interest in the projects as well," Cr Matic said.
Ipswich Mayor Paul Pisasale last night confirmed Ipswich was interested, with green energy vital to its plans to have Japan's biggest housing company Sekisui House build Australia's first zero-emission house factory in Ipswich.
"When I put my hand up to be the mayor of Ipswich, I put my hand up to think outside the square," he said.
"I put my hand up to do something different so that we don't just subdivide land. We are going to create communities."
Under the project brief, Brisbane City Council has not restricted what type of renewable power should be used, Cr Matic said.
"We haven't specified a certain type of renewable. We have gone to the market and said 'You tell us what you have to offer'," he said.
Cr Matic said this approach had drawn a significant response from the private sector.
"It is providing the kind of leverage that the market needs - as far as a contract - but it is also providing an added level of excitement in different non-renewable areas," he said.
"So it is not all about solar, it is not all about thermal or wind.
"It can be a combination. We have left it completely open to the market to combine these elements, or provide other options."
Ipswich City Council already has methane gas from two dumps providing power to several thousand homes.
Cr Matic said council officers would use criteria set during the project's procurement stage would be used to choose the winning tender.
"Those proposals have been marked against those [criteria] and now we are at the next stage where we are going out and asking for tenders," he said.
Cr Matic said no site had been finalised.
"We have left it to the market to tell us where they think the best location for it is.''
Cr Matic would not say if the 20 submissions had concentrated on a particular city, town or suburb.
He said the private sector response showed there was a demand now for renewable energy.
"It is seen as a viable reality," Cr Matic said.
"It is absolutely possible and there are technologies out there that can provide the level of supply, and make it guaranteed supply."
Campbell would be well advised to do some reading on wind energy and also here.
H/T Trevor


  1. I can see a degree of sense in what the mayor is proposing, provided he doesn't make any commitment of public funds until it is known that a "green" power plant can provide electricity at the times required and at a price that competes with conventional sources.

    He will, of course, find that "green" electricity cannot switch on and off nor turn up and down as demand requires. He will also find that the comparative cost of "green" electricity is enormous, not least because (i) the technology is new, crude and unrefined by experience and (ii) of the need to have back-up sources available.

    It truly boggles what is left of my once vibrant mind that anyone can take "green" electricity seriously when there is no effective way of storing any excess it creates in order to plug gaps in supply when the wind/tide is not cooperating.

    He would be best advised to concentrate on encouraging more use of gases emitted by rubbish dumps. This is also a relatively new thing, as you know better than me, but at heart it is no different from any gas-powered generator. With intelligent management a rubbish dump can provide a pretty constant flow of gas.

    The mayor should leave off the rubbish technology and look to rubbish.

  2. Bruce says:

    One GW is pretty big for a renewable source. Perhaps shale gas may be better